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' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. >>> speaker john boehner and minority leader mitch mcconnell, good cop/bad cop and who's who. we will explain after the break. president obama is getting set to give his news conference since re-election. stay tuned to msnbc for the president's remarks live from the white house just ahead. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> it's official, nancy pelosi isn't going anywhere. the first female ever to lead a political party in congress announced a few hours ago she would respect the will of her caucus and return as house minority leader. >> my colleagues made it very clear, in fact i think they must have coordinated with each other, because their message was clear, don't even think of leaving. >> that's a mandate. pelosi and senate majority leader harry reid will be facing off against the same republican tandem from the
of what professor dyson has just said, how does the president win over mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, speaker boehner, who have already openly said, no increases in tax rates? >> well, you have to splinter off some republicans, in the senate it will be easier because you just have to get to 60. you might pass the december 31st deadline where you have a few more democrats in the senate. but the problem is always going to be the house. i think there may be a bargain in the -- in the side of coming to republicans and saying, here are cuts. but the price of those cuts will be that 2%. republicans will face a very tough choice in just a very short time. are they the ones that are going to be responsible for giving 98% of americans tax hikes? do the republicans want to be known as the party that raised your taxes for everybody but 2%? >> right. and i think, martin -- >> so, the 2% solution may be a noose around the republicans' neck. >> i think the republicans have little leverage. not just for that reason but a couple of other reasons. if you consider the fact that taxes are at 15% of gdp, spendin
mitch mcconnell was the number one obstructionist in the president's first term. now he tells "the wall street journal" he'll do whatever it takes to get a deal. i'd be willing to pay the ransom if e we thought we were going to get the hostage out. but the hostage is what? entitlement spending. mcconnell's intention, he's willing to agree to a dollar of new taxes for every dollar in cuts. what a difference an election makes. >> i'm going to ask a question on the stage. they seau had a real spending cuts deal, 10 to 1. spending cuts to tax increases. spooker, you're already shaking your head. but who on this stage would walk away from that deal? would you raise your hand about not raising taxes. >> remember in 2011 republicans would not take a 10 to 1 tax cut deal? now today mitch mcconnell is willing to do a 1 to 1 deal. republicans lost all of their leverage in this election. they made a big gamble and came up empty handed. in 2011 president obama was cutting deals with john boehner on the golf course. it was very favorable for the republicans. the president agreed to more than $1.2 tr
done, much more so than mitch mcconnell, if he can get a deal done in the first six months, he's got health reform and putting the nation's fiscal house in order for the next three, four, five generations as the signature achievement already of his second term, that puts you in the league of some of the most successful presidents in our history. those are huge, big-time -- those are big-time accomplishments. >> he's got the opportunity. >> yes, that's what i'm saying. the door is open for him. >> he is going to have to strike some deals. >> he is. >> and he's going to have to make some grand alliances. >> i don't know anyone who knows speaker boehner who doesn't say a couple of things about him. one, pretty good guy. >> handsome. handsome. >> two, can cut a deal. knows how to cut a deal. and three, from that clip, joe, a guy who knows that he is one of the point people in leading a renewal of the republican party. he's got to cut a deal. he's got to cut a deal. >> but he doesn't have to cut a deal. that's the point and that's what the president and that's what the white house needs t
? the signs aren't clear. mitch mcconnell seemed to be saying no on tuesday, john boehner seemed to be saying possibly. so the issue is are they willing to move to the center on key issues? >> the books are being written but the chapters have yet to be lived out in a second obama term. ron suskin wrote in an op-ed for "the new york times" about whether obama can give the confidence americans need right now, focusing on legacy, which he goes on to say is the end game of the president and is often missing what's happened before his eyes. the great mishap of the first term is failing to direct. with a new president, a sky high approval rating, a sea of enthusiasts. with hindsight 2020, how will obama be different with legacy now in front of his mind? >> i actually think, in terms of legacy, he's going to have the legacy of bringing health care reform, which presidents have tried for a very long time, to fruition here in america, and he made a choice in doing that, and it probably was a choice that cost him some political capital because it came at the expense of some other things he might have d
? >> when i listen to senator boehner and mitch mcconnell yesterday, and when they sound somewhat willing to compromise, if you look behind what they're saying, they're not willing to compromise in any way that touches wealthy americans. because if you eliminate breaks, you're eliminating both the income tax rate and the capital gains rate and the dividend rate and the estate tax rate, then all you're dealing with are things like home mortgage deductions, eitc, child tax credit, preferences for your 401(k), all of the things that actually disproportionately affect middle-class americans and working americans, not the wealthy. so, they're really hiding behind this kind of rhetoric of let's deal with the preferences. but the preferences really don't touch the rich. >> so what is the solution that you would like to face? >> well, you know, i'm in line with the president that we need to deal with rates on the highest income americans. i'm not at all set on $250,000. i think that is a number that really is probably the wrong number. i had conversations with the white house. i don't know why th
, the other thing to watch out for is the fact senator mcconnell, normally a kaubs, very cautious politician by nature will look over his shoulder to make sure he doesn't face a tea party challenge. all of that together, i think, makes it a toxic atmosphere and something we will have to all watch carefully. >> now you -- do you believe that the president is giving up leverage if the republicans don't believe he'll go over the cliff? >> yes. >> and you think he has sent a message that he's willing to go over the cliff? >> i think he sent the message and i'm prepared to reiterate that. >> you think the president is willing to go over the cliff? >> i believe that he is prepared -- >> i have not heard that from him. >> you are looking at the fact that come january 1st if there's no agreement taxes will go up on everyone. including the middle class. i think that's a politically unsustainable position. that the republicans are going to come to regret but, yes, you're right. you haven't heard it yet from the president. he needs to keep his flexibility open as we go into these negotiations but i thi
to stay put, mitch mcconnell staying put. harry reid and john boehner staying put. the president back in, what people would expect musical chairs. none will happen. it's the same people in the same positions and yesterday senate majority leader mitch mcconnell took to the floor and said they won't compromise. we had that interview with paul ryan with abc's jonathan karl saying it's not a mandate. they have a divided government so they'll continue with back and forth of head butting and the taxes should not be raised on wealthiest americans. are we headed just for the same old same old once again? >> i don't think so. first of all we are very pleased about nancy pelosi remaining as leader. she's done an extraordinary job in helping to increase our numbers here on the democratic side, in raising the money that was necessary for us to strengthen our hand here in the house and so she has done such a good job that we urged her to please stay on and that experience really does count. let me just say this, there is some posturing going on and i do think that this posturing is going to perhaps c
a deal they are unhappy with? >> i don't think you'll see t t that. the key things to watch is mitch mcconnell knows how the house tea party republicans think about this. they are the ones that drove it to the bitter end. i don't think the democrats are going to give in immediately or any time. the notion that the rich are going to keep pressing and boehner was saying, i don't want to raise tax rates, but he seemed open to raise taxes in some way on the wealthy. there's definitely room here. i don't think we'll be in the situation we were two years ago where the debt creeling went on and no one was willing to compromise. >> i want to bring in chris van holen. everybody's parsing his wards. what did you hear from john boehner? he said he's willing to budge on revenue, not hike taxes, but is that enough. what are republicans willing to give here. >> the jury is still out. speaker boehner should put his r revenue plan on the table. i mean based on this republican theory that's been proven wrong by history that somehow by giving folks at the top of the income ladder a tax break, you'll create all
to senator mitch mcconnell whose instant reaction to the president being re-elected was this is not a mandate, how do the republicans find the compromise? i believe it was the headline on politico well before we got into the heart of the campaign season that said speaker boehner's job was specially trying to hurt cats referring to some members of his caucus. >> that's a good analogy. the president came very short of saying, i won, you didn't. he said, you know, look i want to compromise. everything's on the table. i want to hear your ideas. but the people have spoken and we need to get moving here. speaker boehner is from the old school of let's get something done. he has been hijacked and hamstrung by the right flank of his party, and i think what he was trying to say the day after the election is you know okay. i'm with you. let's try to get this done. i'm ready to jettison some of the loons, the far right in the party, and try to work with democrats to get a compromise. the other thing is they're both using squishy language. they're talki
. that is absolutely wrong. >> karen, mitch mcconnell, who hasn't been seen since tuesday's be election, issued this statement. he says, i wasn't sent to washington to raise anybody's taxes to pay for more wasteful spending, and this election doesn't change my principles. >> yes. >> does that sound like the cooperation, conscientious, and the common sense that the president is looking for? >> no. and if you combine that with the rhetoric we've been hearing from a number of the right wing conservatives about this is really about the people voted for president obama want free stuff, it sure sounds a lot like what mitt romney was saying in that fund-raiser about the 47% of americans. >> uh-huh. >> it really sounds like these guys not only don't get it, they don't care what the americans want. they have their agenda. they have their ideology, and they're still going to try to pursue it, not recognizing that it was roundly rejected, but here is the most important thing. we, the people, will have to be the ones who hold them accountable. i think the president will obviously fight it, but this goes to
mitch mcconnell and some of the more adult members of the republicans in the senate can put pressure on the house. if they can't change those fundamental dynamics, we're heading in the same direction. >> i think mitch mcconnell is a problem because he's up for re-election and he's worried about getting a challenge from the tea party right. mr. boehner said this is your moment, mr. president, now lead. that's an acknowledgment of reality and a bit of a trying to pass the buck, but it's the truth. it is going to be up to the president to go into those negotiations and to lead and to continue to listen and find areas where compromise can be built. >> but he has to lead -- >> let me help you out. >> he has to lead publicly as well because the election -- >> sell. >> he has to sell it. there aren't a lot of republicans i think at play from -- in regards to public pressure, but there are a few, and the president is going to have to work hard to find points of pressure on those people -- >> let's try -- >> they have to be willing to absorb some blows. >> remember how he ran against hillary
to be the number two republican in the whole senate right behind mitch mcconnell. and that is calling failing up. which is amazing on its own terms. in terms of republicans in the senate. i think we also should wonder if that is instructive for how the republican party is going to deal with the overall question of who their leader is and what they stand for after this electoral drubbing they took in this week's election. "the washington post" reporting today that the republican party is going to undertake a big internal review of what went wrong on tuesday. reportedly take place over the next few weeks and months. spearheaded by republican party national officials. the goal of the review is to determine, quote, what went so wrong and how to fix it. good idea. yeah. let's review. it's a good idea because the informal process so far of the right trying to figure out what went wrong for republicans this election, that informal process so far is not going well. republicans have so far decided that hurricane sandy is the reason mitt romney lost. they have also decided that fact checking is the reason
in every battleground except one. today we saw what losing looks like. gop senate majority leader mitch mcconnell sat down with the three new republicans in the senate. they were expecting a big wave. maybe even a new majority in the senate. instead, it was the democrats, the party of obama, that gained seats. so, why do republicans think they lost? here's what paul ryan's attempt at answering that was. >> i think the surprise was some of the turnout. some of the turnout especially in urban areas, which definitely gave president obama the big margin to win this race. >> urban areas? the president won because of urban areas. sure, turnout was a factor. but sadly paul ryan can't see was so much more to why the republican party failed. one week ago tonight. joining me is congressman barney frank, democrat from massachusetts, ranking and former chairman of the financial services committee. mr. chairman, thank you for joining me. >> thank you, al. >> given the election loss, do you think the republicans will be more open to compromising with the president and the democrats on taxes? let's start there.
. >> eric: another quick point. when you have john boehner and mitch mcconnell and mitt romney talking about immigration, immigration reform, it doesn't hold the water, the credibility when marco rubio or ted cruz or martinez does it, who has a better background and basis for making comments on it. that is why it -- >> bob: it's a question of policy. are they going to change policy? >> eric: they are the ones to do it. if you're romney with immigration reform. >> dana: in 1986, they passed the bill, the immigration bill because of the amnesty bill in 1986, republicans are the ones that passed that. ronald reagan signed it. republicans lost seats in 1988. i don't know if that is the right rabbit to chase. >> bob: they increased percentage among hispanics. >> andrea: i still say no, matter what, amnesty, free healthcare, student loans. give, give, give. g.o.p., no quick fix and it doesn't see a harvard professor to see where it's going. coming up, the main stream media may not be totally to blame for the republican losses this week but they weren't fair and balanceed in the reporting. what sho
. and rand paul who is very close to mitch mcconnell who runs the republican party in the senate. he told us he's going to start pushing for more lax marijuana laws, going to start pushing for a pathway to citizenship on illegal immigration. he said that this tea party conservatism that brought him power and some fame needs to recalibrate too and they need to use this libertarian strain to start to reach out to people in cities, in the northeast, they can't be a one-region party. again, it's not just bobby jindal, it's across the board where you have prominent, influential republicans re-thinking what it means to a republican. and that is, i think that is the one silver lining for the republican party from the results last week. >> by the way, jim, that's a big, big silver lining. a big silver lining. this is a party, this wasn't a goldwater type wipeout. it was a couple of percentage points in the popular vote. you have a president whose campaign team was brilliant and they outmaneuvered the republicans tactically in nine states. no doubt, we were out of touch with voters on issues, but it
'll have to do some of that in order to get republicans support on taxes. even mitch mcconnell went to the floor and said, i will consider higher revenues, but the president has to agree to something on entitlements. so the question is, if he does do something, how many democrats can the president bring on board because as you mentioned, the le left, a lot of folks are concerned. people who campaigned for this president don't want him to be throwing him under the bus. >> speaking of the liberal wing of the democratic party, what are you hearing about nancy pelosi's future? >>. she's being mum on that right now. she said tomorrow morning by 10:00 a.m., we'll all know her decision. some of that may leak out beforehand. but right now, she's gauging whether or not she has the political support to keep the control of her spot atop the democratic leadership. she's not saying one way or the other she will stand on board or the democrat from maryland, her number two would assume as the top democratic leader. >> i know the election was a long time ago, but i just wanted to refresh everyone's
to call both mr. boehner and the senator republican leader, mitch mcconnell but was told they were asleep. >> wake them up, for goodness sake. >> he is the president. >> wake him up. >> yesterday, yesterday, senate majority leader harry reid struck a tone of cautious optimism. >> it's better to dance than to fight. it's bettor work together. i want to work together but i want everyone to also understand, you can't push us around. >> hours later there was some reason for hope. the word revenue which speaker boehner used 15 times in a 12-minute press conference and not always in a completely negative context. >> the news via tax reform. we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. republicans have signaled a willingness to accept new revenue. if it comes from growth and reform. >> has boehner opened the door to compromise and extended an actual olive branch. he alluded to the grand bargain that slipped away a year ago. >> closer to the critical mass needed legislatively to get tax reform done. the president and i talked about it extensively during the summer of 2011. it w
world, whether it can get through with mitch mcconnell in the senate and republicans in the house is unclear, but i think the white house will give a big push to that. secondly, remember, as bad as the republican super pacs did, the democratic super pacs, although they didn't spend as much money did quite well. you will see a big focus on who their big donors were. and there were some -- >> okay. that's one other example at work. i'm told by the pros like you, john, that one thing that did succeed in terms of big spending was the attempt -- the success, rather, in defining mitt romney early on by the white house people and their allies. >> absolutely incredible. priorities usa action, they made a bunch of really strategic decisions. they didn't have that much money relative to the larger republican conservative super pacs. they decided to go in hard into certain states, particularly ohio, where they spent the bulk of their money. they ran a bunch of ads that were incredibly -- that got an aincredible amount of attention in terms of they got a lot of air time in terms of what they
of posturing. but it certainly was a much different tone, for instance, than what came out of mitch mcconnell's office office the election, and we've plowed through that plenty. i think what you're going to see now is the white house wants to attack a little bit of time, be thoughtful how public -- what they say publicly versus how much maneuverer ability is there. the other unnamed player is chuck shumer. chuck schumer publicly said i like simpson bowls in the it made an effort but i don't like what they're trying to do with taxes. we can't do this with tax reform. taxes should go up. he wants to move the negotiating position on the democrats in a little bit of a different direction. so what president obama has to navigate is that politics a lit bit in the senate. senate democrats more emboldened. they netted some seats. they didn't just hold their majority. they got a stronger majority. >> right. >> so i think before he goes out too publicly he's got make sure -- the white house has to make sure they're on the same page as harry reid and vice versus, i think that's why there's a little bit
a run against mitch mcconnell. however, she told "us weekly." while i'm honored by the consideration, let's focus oncoming together to keep moving america's families and especially our kids forward. >>> so what happens to a presidential campaign after a loss? the staffers, the campaigners, the candidate? since mitt romney's defeat on tuesday his campaign twitter feed has fallen silent and the credit cards have stopped working pretty much right away. for a look into the end of the romney campaign we turn to garret headache, fresh off the campaign trail after following the former governor's campaign. >> 16 months? >> give or take. >> don't look worse for ware. >> tell us about what it was like wednesday morning, the i guess, you know, they knew going in they were going to have to throw in the towel, what was it like after midnight and how the campaign disbanded? >> sort of like a last person out turn off the lights. you saw staffers coming home after what they expected to be this huge party, getting out of cabs, having their credit cards turned off as you mentioned. people the next day
. if the republicans folded on that then and the mood that we're seeing ut from people like mitch mcconnell and bill crystal their mood on tax has shifted a little bit since the election. i think it's pretty clear at this point where this is going. >> you think their knees are getting weak. i will point out to you, david brooks, writing in the new york times, this is not the republican party of 2010. today's republicans no longer have an incentive to deny obama victories, never running again, much to the point you brought up. republicans will play ball, except then you have people like newt gingrich and this what is newt gingrich said this morning on "morning joe." let's take a listen. >> no house republican should be bamboozled into this idea that the only person that has a mandate is barack obama. the house republicans have a mandate. it's fundamentally different than obama's mandate. they would be well put not to try to cut a deal with obama but to say paul ryan is going to bring forth a solution to the fix, we're going to gather votes for it. i guarantee you you'll have a democratic substitute a
term. what's your response? >> always ask that question except to mitch mcconnell. >> delay younger leadership from the house democratic ranks? >> let's for a moment honor that that's a legitimate question. it's quite offensive. you don't realize it, i guess. the fact is that everything that i have done in my i guess decade now of leadership, is to elect younger and newer people to the congress. >> well, there's a lot going on there, gender, age. let me throw it to you. >> well, there are plenty of land mines there, but basically nancy pelosi has been saying that she has worked very hard on behalf of the party, she raised a lot of money. she has been often the very visible target of republicans. we certainly saw that in 2010. she described having an insatiable need to stay in this political game and to be part of the important work that is yet to be done. there are many who have told me that they were a bit surprised that she chose to stay on. others who have said she told not even some of her close associates on capitol hill what her plans were. but her posture certainly led to a s
are already digging in their heels. speaker boehner, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. all of them saying they will fight the president on taxes. all of them saying the president doesn't have a mandate. but president obama has something to say about that. >> i have one mandate. i have a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard to try to get into the middle class. that's my mandate. >> this is a clear message. it's what americans voted for a week ago. are you sure you want this fight, republicans? democrat from pennsylvania chuck fatah and ezra klein, msnbc policy analyst. he's writing about the fight over taxes today and the piece is called "the big question: how, not whether, to raise taxes." thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> good to be here. >> congressman, do you think republicans will make a deal or is this 2010 with the tea party all over again? >> well, what the public needs to understand is the income tax system is not fair to them. there is a report done by the congress each year by the joint committee on taxation. sh
assess what's going to happen with republicans like speaker john boehner and mitch mcconnell? how does the president persuade them to lay down their pledges to grover norquist and commit to the nation? >> well, ultimately the president is not going to persuade them. ultimately the voters have to persuade them. i think john boehner and a few others in the republican party have got to tell eric cantor and paul ryan and michele bachmann and a lot of the tea partiers in that party, if you continue to insist that taxes are not going to be increased on the rich, we are not going to ever gain or regain control of the senate. we're going to lose control of the house in 2014, 2016. we're going to become a permanent minority party because it makes no sense to most americans. >> hit them where it hurts. professor robert reich, thank you. >>> next, how far will the president go in the showdown against john mccain. >>> but first, hampton pearson has the cnbc market wrap. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. we saw stocks move lower again on more wall street fears of going over the fiscal cliff. the d
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